Kathy Cain: You know, we have an interview question that we still use and that we used way back then and it is, "what would you say the percentage of engineer and the percentage of art is in being a designer” and the correct answer for us based on what you just heard Kathy describe is...is it's got to be at least 80% engineering. And if anyone comes in here and says, "Oh like a hundred percent art." I mean, forget it. I mean, that's not what a designer is. We're problem solvers.
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